For some reason i cant "post" a comment, i have noticed this on other blogs as well... anyway, i wanted to reply to Sunman's question. First let me say i have stopped making my own patties, far too messy and time consuming with my ever expanding yard (21 now, 31 in a week...). So i went back to premade patties, Mann Lakes right now as they were the cheapest with free shipping. The bees seem to consume them just as fast...
The carnola oil was something Randy Oliver mentioned at the VA State Fall meeting that he adds to increase the essential aminno acids, cant remember which. What i also found was that it stopped my patties from turning rock hard and they stayed nice and moist. A huge plus when making your own, if nothing else i would do it for this reason! if i remember correctly i used about a 1/2 cup for about 15lbs of final patties... but its not exact just add or delete to find your consistancy just like you have to do with the pattie mix itself...
The Latshaw min&vit sub as something i bought to try. I am a person that doesnt mind spending a little if it does help, Joe and his father are well educated scientist so i trust them over others, but i dont know if it works. Can you really tell anything really works with bees??? most of the things i do have no evidence etc... Since this 5lb bag does a true Ton of patties i usally just take a little scoop and mix it in. I know its overkill, but i cant measure out grams etc to break that bag down into my small portions...
BTW i doubt the bees will use a pollen pattie right now, i placed some on a few hives on sunday, but thats only for insurence purposes incase we get another week of ran and cool weather... but they dont eat much of it during the spring here in VA, the real purpose for me is the first of july to keep brood rearing up and healthy. eventually by august they are eating a pound per hive per week up until about Nov....



